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Re: Guitar Man - The Sessions 1967-68 New FTD Set. Summer 2024

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javilu wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:10 pm
Rob wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 5:46 pm
It's fine that they left it off. I already have it on several other releases.

No need to run a good thing in the ground.
How about showing some empathy for those who do not indulge into the shady world of bootlegs, Rob?
The song is all over youtube, it's not like putting it on a limited edition collector's label release will tarnish Elvis reputation.
I have no control over whether they put it on there or not. My opinion will not sway them one way or another. I commented that I was fine with them omitting it. Maybe they'll listen to you and put it there.

My comment stands. Good luck with yours.


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I understand the uniformity FTD is going for but it's just so boring seeing all these boxsets come in different shades of blue, the first is a straight copy of the original design but with a shot from Stay Away Joe and the border used for the How Great Thou Art sessions brought back to tidy things up a bit.

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Probably a “typo” but US Male – take 7 (f.s. + compl. 2:59) is not mentioned here on CD 5.



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Not my favorites, sorry.




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I'm disappointed because there isn't a new live on tour series! Cisco, where are you?



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Re: Guitar Man - The Sessions 1967-68 New FTD Set. Summer 2024

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Rockin_John wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:05 pm
Mike C wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 5:28 pm
Johnny2523 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 3:42 pm
I just hope there's no censoring.
I was thinking the same thing. I could see them keeping "The Prisoner's Song" off the set. This occurs just after take 1 of U.S. Male.
What is this song about really?
English is not my first language, read somewhere that this was racist?
Racist? A song about a raccoon? No.



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Re: Guitar Man - The Sessions 1967-68 New FTD Set. Summer 2024

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Rob wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:17 pm
javilu wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:10 pm
Rob wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 5:46 pm
It's fine that they left it off. I already have it on several other releases.

No need to run a good thing in the ground.
How about showing some empathy for those who do not indulge into the shady world of bootlegs, Rob?
The song is all over youtube, it's not like putting it on a limited edition collector's label release will tarnish Elvis reputation.
I have no control over whether they put it on there or not. My opinion will not sway them one way or another. I commented that I was fine with them omitting it. Maybe they'll listen to you and put it there.

My comment stands. Good luck with yours.
My empathy comment was meant to be tongue firmly in cheek, Rob. Sorry if it didn't come out that way.
But how nice would it be to get the actual complete sessions and be done with the ridiculous censorship. Elvis has been gone for too long now.


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I can't disagree with you (and I didn't take your comment seriously). It is a collector's label. Joe Public would have zero interest in a 5-CD release of outtakes. I've just heard it so many times that I don't care whether or not it is included officially or not. I do like hearing these sessions as they were recorded, so I can understand other views.

I am not overly excited about this release. Will I get it regardless?

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Rob wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 8:59 pm
I can't disagree with you (and I didn't take your comment seriously). It is a collector's label. Joe Public would have zero interest in a 5-CD release of outtakes. I've just heard it so many times that I don't care whether or not it is included officially or not. I do like hearing these sessions as they were recorded, so I can understand other views.

I am not overly excited about this release. Will I get it regardless?

Damn it!
Even though I get all my Sessions releases creased because of the crappy flimsy quality of the artwork, I will continue preordering from Bear Family.
Cheapest option from Argentina.


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Re: Guitar Man - The Sessions 1967-68 New FTD Set. Summer 2024

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Johnny2523 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 3:57 pm
javilu wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 3:54 pm
Johnny2523 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 3:42 pm
I just hope there's no censoring.


But where is "Wings Of An Angel"?


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javilu wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 8:35 pm
My empathy comment was meant to be tongue firmly in cheek, Rob. Sorry if it didn't come out that way.
But how nice would it be to get the actual complete sessions and be done with the ridiculous censorship. Elvis has been gone for too long now.







Imagine how a complete studio jam of "The Prisoner's Song," officially released on Follow That Dream, would be received by the media in 2024.

Imagine what folks would think of Elvis as an artist, and as a human being. Folks who only just learned of his life and music.

Yes, let's hope for "no censoring" or "ridiculous censorship."


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In a word... WHOA!
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Lee Wood wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 8:15 pm
Racist? A song about a raccoon? No.





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Re: Guitar Man - The Sessions 1967-68 New FTD Set. Summer 2024

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Rockin_John wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:05 pm
What is this song about really?
English is not my first language, read somewhere that this was racist?






Learn a lot here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner's_Song


The jam session from Nashville in January 1968 does not follow the original recording, or the many covers recorded through the years.

Specifically, the off-the-cuff lyric changes made by Elvis were meant only for the handful of people in the studio that night. No one else. He never imagined bullshit caught on a session tape would one day be heard by others.

You could be kind and call it "good ol' boy" humor, but for many ears it would be considered anything but that.

It seems some European fans have a lot of trouble placing this brief bit of fooling around in context, and that must be due to an ignorance of American history and popular culture.

In today's world it would be very bad to make this jam available from an official source.

Luckily, the folks at FTD aren't complete idiots.

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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 9:47 pm
Rockin_John wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:05 pm
What is this song about really?
English is not my first language, read somewhere that this was racist?






Learn a lot here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner's_Song


The jam session from Nashville in January 1968 does not follow the original recording, or the many covers recorded through the years.

Specifically, the off-the-cuff lyric changes made by Elvis were meant only for the handful of people in the studio that night. No one else. He never imagined bullshit caught on a session tape would one day be heard by others.

You could be kind and call it "good ol' boy" humor, but for many ears it would be considered anything but that.

It seems some European fans have a lot of trouble placing this brief bit of fooling around in context, and that must be due to an ignorance of American history and popular culture.

In today's world it would be very bad to make this jam available from an official source.

Luckily, the folks at FTD aren't complete idiots.

:smt023
Very well stated Doc.

I would certainly never want this to be content to be included on an official release, regardless of the of the fact you can find it on YouTube.

The only people that would seek this out or be interested would actually be a very small niche of Elvis fans, so I don’t buy the fact that just because you can find it on YouTube it should be worth having.


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 9:47 pm
Rockin_John wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:05 pm
What is this song about really?
English is not my first language, read somewhere that this was racist?






Learn a lot here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner's_Song


The jam session from Nashville in January 1968 does not follow the original recording, or the many covers recorded through the years.

Specifically, the off-the-cuff lyric changes made by Elvis were meant only for the handful of people in the studio that night. No one else. He never imagined bullshit caught on a session tape would one day be heard by others.

You could be kind and call it "good ol' boy" humor, but for many ears it would be considered anything but that.

It seems some European fans have a lot of trouble placing this brief bit of fooling around in context, and that must be due to an ignorance of American history and popular culture.

In today's world it would be very bad to make this jam available from an official source.

Luckily, the folks at FTD aren't complete idiots.

:smt023
please, I am not of American culture and do not understand English. could you translate for me, if it is allowed, what Elvis says on this song


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Re: Guitar Man - The Sessions 1967-68 New FTD Set. Summer 2024

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petitemimi wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 10:55 pm
drjohncarpenter wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 9:47 pm
Rockin_John wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:05 pm
What is this song about really?
English is not my first language, read somewhere that this was racist?






Learn a lot here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner's_Song


The jam session from Nashville in January 1968 does not follow the original recording, or the many covers recorded through the years.

Specifically, the off-the-cuff lyric changes made by Elvis were meant only for the handful of people in the studio that night. No one else. He never imagined bullshit caught on a session tape would one day be heard by others.

You could be kind and call it "good ol' boy" humor, but for many ears it would be considered anything but that.

It seems some European fans have a lot of trouble placing this brief bit of fooling around in context, and that must be due to an ignorance of American history and popular culture.

In today's world it would be very bad to make this jam available from an official source.

please, I am not of American culture and do not understand English. could you translate for me, if it is allowed, what Elvis says on this song
I learned nothing about Elvis' version or what he sings about in that Wikipedia link, which I obviously checked before I asked here what Elvis is singing about...

As I stated earlier, I don't understand what he sings about, as English isn't my first language and have nothing to do with ignorance.

I googled big hairy coon and found a site with furry cats.
Would appreciate an explanation instead of insults.


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Rockin_John wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:12 pm

I googled big hairy coon and found a site with furry cats.
hahahahahaha
drjohncarpenter wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 9:27 pm
Imagine how a complete studio jam of "The Prisoner's Song," officially released on Follow That Dream, would be received by the media in 2024.

Imagine what folks would think of Elvis as an artist, and as a human being. Folks who only just learned of his life and music.

Yes, let's hope for "no censoring" or "ridiculous censorship."


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"Received by the media" Hahaha. The media doesn't give a shite about a limited edition fan club only CD release with studio sessions with a gazillion takes and an improvisation that has been circulating in bootlegs, youtube and elsewhere for 30 years.

Now I would totally agree to not include it in a release like Elvis 30 #1 hits or have it overdubbed by the Philharmonic for the Symphonic Elvis CD, but everyone knows these sessions were not to be heard by the general public.

I sincerely doubt anyone will "discover" this because it comes out in a 5-CD sessions FTD. Anyone interested enough to get the 5 CD set already heard the song on youtube or bought the bootlegs, like, say Rob.


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I'm in!

Hopefully, the content remains unedited and true to history, as this release is intended for die-hard collectors rather than public consumption.


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drjohncarpenter wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 9:36 pm
Lee Wood wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 8:15 pm
Racist? A song about a raccoon? No.





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You have a lot to learn.
You too. I was kidding. Just because I don't use your precious emojis....

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Hi there!! :D :D :D.

Cool release, I´m in too! :smt026. Bye for now :smt006.


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Yes I may not be buying the latest FTD book. But I will be buying this, so many great songs!


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YDKM wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 1:27 am
Yes I may not be buying the latest FTD book. But I will be buying this, so many great songs!
I'm thankful this isn't a book package... those suckers are getting beyond my budget!! :smt023



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Rockin_John wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:12 pm
I learned nothing about Elvis' version or what he sings about in that Wikipedia link, which I obviously checked before I asked here what Elvis is singing about...


I can not imagine a ruder reply to a well-intentioned answer.

Ah, the internet.


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javilu wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:37 pm
"Received by the media" Hahaha. The media doesn't give a shite about a limited edition fan club only CD release with studio sessions with a gazillion takes and an improvisation that has been circulating in bootlegs, youtube and elsewhere for 30 years.





The more things change . . .

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petitemimi wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 10:55 pm
please, I am not of American culture and do not understand English. could you translate for me, if it is allowed, what Elvis says on this song



Bonjour, petitemimi.

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